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	<title>Comments on: What is youth work anyway?</title>
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		<title>By: Mike Amos-Simpson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Amos-Simpson</dc:creator>
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		<description>Hi Tim - I had a similar experience at sicamp - I just assumed people would get it but actually it turns out not many people do! Having said that I often used to avoid talking about what I do because it would take so long to explain to people so perhaps it shouldn&#039;t have been that surprising.

I think your definitions will be really useful for people - I do hope though, that people in both the formal and informal sectors will continue to see all types of education as evolving though. Certainly I think the formal education sector needs to adapt quite rapidly to provide people with the skills and qualities they&#039;ll need for life - this doesn&#039;t just apply to schools either - how many University courses still place a massive emphasis on old theories and historical learning to the detriment of equipping people with actual skills they&#039;ll need in their professions - for example how much youth worker training includes things like management, organisation, budgeting, using technology, practical activity skills &amp; ideas etc. ?

For the informal sector I think in many ways they should be much more &#039;cutting edge&#039;, much more experimental and taking advantage of the freedom from fixed curriculum&#039;s etc. - and yet what we see if anything is a trend towards adapting a fixed curriculum, and emphasis on accreditation &amp; so on. I&#039;d much rather see the informal education sector as a creative hub looking to feed its successes into the formal education sector - but the relationship doesn&#039;t seem to work this way currently - in fact often it feels as though they&#039;re almost in competition albeit that the informal sector is considered the smaller petulant distant cousin!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tim &#8211; I had a similar experience at sicamp &#8211; I just assumed people would get it but actually it turns out not many people do! Having said that I often used to avoid talking about what I do because it would take so long to explain to people so perhaps it shouldn&#8217;t have been that surprising.</p>
<p>I think your definitions will be really useful for people &#8211; I do hope though, that people in both the formal and informal sectors will continue to see all types of education as evolving though. Certainly I think the formal education sector needs to adapt quite rapidly to provide people with the skills and qualities they&#8217;ll need for life &#8211; this doesn&#8217;t just apply to schools either &#8211; how many University courses still place a massive emphasis on old theories and historical learning to the detriment of equipping people with actual skills they&#8217;ll need in their professions &#8211; for example how much youth worker training includes things like management, organisation, budgeting, using technology, practical activity skills &#038; ideas etc. ?</p>
<p>For the informal sector I think in many ways they should be much more &#8216;cutting edge&#8217;, much more experimental and taking advantage of the freedom from fixed curriculum&#8217;s etc. &#8211; and yet what we see if anything is a trend towards adapting a fixed curriculum, and emphasis on accreditation &#038; so on. I&#8217;d much rather see the informal education sector as a creative hub looking to feed its successes into the formal education sector &#8211; but the relationship doesn&#8217;t seem to work this way currently &#8211; in fact often it feels as though they&#8217;re almost in competition albeit that the informal sector is considered the smaller petulant distant cousin!</p>
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