Comments on: It’s not about you http://www.timdavies.org.uk/2009/03/25/its-not-about-you/ social technologies, civic participation & social change Thu, 09 Sep 2010 12:49:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: mark http://www.timdavies.org.uk/2009/03/25/its-not-about-you/comment-page-1/#comment-45667 mark Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:30:06 +0000 http://www.timdavies.org.uk/?p=2370#comment-45667 Oh how true, I see this a lot as well, yet finding ways to overcome this way of thinking is really difficult. It may even take a whole generation before we start to see change - I can't imagine that a young person today, that ends up running a company in 10-15yrs time, will bury their staff in unnecessary, intrusive red tape and archaic working methods. Waiting for change to happen at management level regarding new ways of working is like watching paint dry in a sauna. Together I think we can at least shake a few people into waking up a little - lets just hope that it doesn't take too long hey? Oh how true, I see this a lot as well, yet finding ways to overcome this way of thinking is really difficult. It may even take a whole generation before we start to see change – I can’t imagine that a young person today, that ends up running a company in 10-15yrs time, will bury their staff in unnecessary, intrusive red tape and archaic working methods. Waiting for change to happen at management level regarding new ways of working is like watching paint dry in a sauna. Together I think we can at least shake a few people into waking up a little – lets just hope that it doesn’t take too long hey?

]]> By: Andreas http://www.timdavies.org.uk/2009/03/25/its-not-about-you/comment-page-1/#comment-45598 Andreas Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:29:44 +0000 http://www.timdavies.org.uk/?p=2370#comment-45598 Spot on, Tim. Organisations like this will notice - often too late, sometimes not at all - that young people simply turn elsewhere. Participation always happens - if organisations don't allow for it by shifting their focus, the focus of young people will shift away from them to never return. Non-participation of young people is a myth. It's just that the structures reporting and documenting youth participation have not understood what you are saying. To them it seems that participation has decreased. It hasn't. It's just gone elsewhere. Spot on, Tim.

Organisations like this will notice – often too late, sometimes not at all – that young people simply turn elsewhere.

Participation always happens – if organisations don’t allow for it by shifting their focus, the focus of young people will shift away from them to never return.

Non-participation of young people is a myth. It’s just that the structures reporting and documenting youth participation have not understood what you are saying. To them it seems that participation has decreased.

It hasn’t. It’s just gone elsewhere.

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