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	<title>Comments on: Questionable consultation</title>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Ed

Thanks for the really useful comments. I certainly agree that there are many dilemmas and issues to be balanced in designing a consultation and engagement process - and it is always a case of compromise rather than perfect process (as underlying a consultation are political decisions, inevitably decisions needing negotiation and compromise). 

Providing context is tough - but I&#039;m not sure that needs to be because it can become too wordy. A well designed short video clip, or a few slides written in plain English can give a sense of what a question is about (of course, care needs to be taken to make sure these don&#039;t introduce bias into the question asking), and these can in the online environment be provided as optional extras to view for the consultee - rather than hurdles to be leapt over before a question is answered. 

One theme certainly worth exploring is what a fair online consultation looks like when we see taking consultation online not as just putting paper based forms on the internet - but we take advantage of a rich online environment to seek better quality deliberation and citizen input into decision making.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Ed</p>
<p>Thanks for the really useful comments. I certainly agree that there are many dilemmas and issues to be balanced in designing a consultation and engagement process &#8211; and it is always a case of compromise rather than perfect process (as underlying a consultation are political decisions, inevitably decisions needing negotiation and compromise). </p>
<p>Providing context is tough &#8211; but I&#8217;m not sure that needs to be because it can become too wordy. A well designed short video clip, or a few slides written in plain English can give a sense of what a question is about (of course, care needs to be taken to make sure these don&#8217;t introduce bias into the question asking), and these can in the online environment be provided as optional extras to view for the consultee &#8211; rather than hurdles to be leapt over before a question is answered. </p>
<p>One theme certainly worth exploring is what a fair online consultation looks like when we see taking consultation online not as just putting paper based forms on the internet &#8211; but we take advantage of a rich online environment to seek better quality deliberation and citizen input into decision making.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Wallace</title>
		<link>http://www.timdavies.org.uk/2009/07/21/questionable-consultation/comment-page-1/#comment-85167</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Wallace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 08:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim,

As someone who works in the world of engagement and consultation in local government I think you&#039;ve raised a range of interesting points, most of which I would be inclined to agree with. 

However I think these comments should be balanced with a number of other considerations that need to be factored in. I completely agree with you point about providing context. However, there is a limit to the amount of background information you can provide participants before this acts as a disincentive to completing the questionnaire...And I think it&#039;s fair to say adding context to corporate priorities could get quite wordy!

Alongside this I&#039;ve always found consulting on strategic priorities to be somewhat problematic. I&#039;d be lying if I said I&#039;ve never constructed a similar looking question, but equally when I have I&#039;ve also been aware of the constraints of the approach. Although I&#039;d always ask &#039;why do we need to ask this?&#039; It often has to be balanced against wider internal and/or external political pressures. Perhaps in defence of my colleagues at Oxford I&#039;d hope they at least acknowledged these dilemmas when agreeing their approach, even if in the world of evidence based decision making concessions do have to be made!

Overall I guess this all links back to recognising your limitations. 

Anyway, keep up the good work!

Ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim,</p>
<p>As someone who works in the world of engagement and consultation in local government I think you&#8217;ve raised a range of interesting points, most of which I would be inclined to agree with. </p>
<p>However I think these comments should be balanced with a number of other considerations that need to be factored in. I completely agree with you point about providing context. However, there is a limit to the amount of background information you can provide participants before this acts as a disincentive to completing the questionnaire&#8230;And I think it&#8217;s fair to say adding context to corporate priorities could get quite wordy!</p>
<p>Alongside this I&#8217;ve always found consulting on strategic priorities to be somewhat problematic. I&#8217;d be lying if I said I&#8217;ve never constructed a similar looking question, but equally when I have I&#8217;ve also been aware of the constraints of the approach. Although I&#8217;d always ask &#8216;why do we need to ask this?&#8217; It often has to be balanced against wider internal and/or external political pressures. Perhaps in defence of my colleagues at Oxford I&#8217;d hope they at least acknowledged these dilemmas when agreeing their approach, even if in the world of evidence based decision making concessions do have to be made!</p>
<p>Overall I guess this all links back to recognising your limitations. </p>
<p>Anyway, keep up the good work!</p>
<p>Ed</p>
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